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Hi everyone, sorry if i'm posting this in the wrong section, still learning the forum. I ordered a Weber EP-330 yesterday and now I want to get some good equipment to go with it.

 

I need a good thermometer, the one i have now is just a cheap "trutemp" that i'm sure isn't accurate.

 

Also, i'm tired of burning my hand over my current grill, so i was thinking about a set of grill gloves, maybe even the "ove glove".

 

Lastly, is there a set of grill utensils that is best, or are all of those created equal?

 

Any suggestions or thoughts on these 3 items?

 

thanks, Jason

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I don't use gloves. Unless I have to move a hot grate. Get some good tongs (not the crappy stuff they call BBQ tongs) get some restaurant supply type tongs. A good spatuala and maybe a fork. It's all I use. I don't even use a thermo save for the one in the hood and a chef's type instant read when I am doing a roast. Otherwise I just hold my hand over the grate and count

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I don't use gloves. Unless I have to move a hot grate. Get some good tongs (not the crappy stuff they call BBQ tongs) get some restaurant supply type tongs. A good spatuala and maybe a fork. It's all I use. I don't even use a thermo save for the one in the hood and a chef's type instant read when I am doing a roast. Otherwise I just hold my hand over the grate and count

Sorry I should have clarified, I meant a thermometer for checking the meat temperature, not the grill temp.

 

For tongs, are you referring to something like this?-

 

http://www.amazon.com/Serving-Extra-Stainless-Restaurant-Quality/dp/B008PEH5PQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1371927652&sr=1-5&keywords=restaurant+tongs

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Sorry I should have clarified, I meant a thermometer for checking the meat temperature, not the grill temp.

 

For tongs, are you referring to something like this?-

 

http://www.amazon.co...estaurant+tongs

 

Yes like those but there are some that are better. Sams Club has a very decent set, the Oxo ones are nice but the rubber inserts on them turn to s^&t so I just take them off, I even found some very good ones at Walmart of all places

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Consider a Thermapen thermometer... about $100 but amazing. It is an instant read thermometer...super accurate. If you don't mind the outlay go for it.

 

I bought Weber Style utensils...very high quality. Mine have been outside under my grill cover for 4+ years. They still look new. Well worth it.

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I second the Thermapen. You can even use it to measure your grill temp if you have a rotisserie port, etc. Hey, I check the air temp with mine. You can find some good sales at times if you sign up for their emails ($70-80).

 

I have two pairs of gloves/mitts. Both are overpriced, but I put them in my wishlist and my family provides -- they know which side the grill is lit on (so to speak). :lol: One pair is the Raichlen leather which I use pretty much only for handling my charcoal chimney. Cloth or plastic gloves really aren't much good if a coal drops on them. I cook on a wooden deck and dropping the coals is NOT an option. These gloves also aren't much good for real heat protection as in handling a HOT pizza stone -- or for directly handling greasy foods. So that leaves the charcoal stuff. For handling hot items (grates, stones, whatever), I find the Weber mitts are very good. Well-insulated, washable and not TOO large. The Raichlen glove are made for large hands, the Weber mitts for medium (like mine). The only other gloves/mitts that might be good would be plastic/rubber for directly handling hot food (like pork butts). But I have yet to find any that I'm confident are worth the money -- so I shred/pull with tender fingers and two good-sized forks.

 

The single MOST necessary utensils? -- tongs! I have three -- would like to trash one in favor of the special "type" of the others, but I still use all three. (Maybe if I washed them right after each use, I could get by with one, but I doubt it. At least one seems always in the dishwasher.) The special "type"? First of all at least 16" long. Believe me, if you grill often and use all of your grill, 12" is NOT enough. One of my good "type" is 12" and I avoid it. Oh -- "type" -- any tongs I buy MUST be self-locking. Others say it's not important, but to me it's #1. The first one of my tongs that I would throw away is my good 16 inch, two-handed locking tongs. Good quality, comfortable, strong and a royal pain (for me) to use. Why? I don't want (I hate) to have to use two hands to lock my tongs. I also don't want to put open tongs on my side tables -- I want them locked and out of the way. I guess most think locking is for storing. The way I cook is a quick flip down to unlock, handle food, a quick flip up to lock and set down. To use two hands means I don't have a free hand for other things -- doesn't feel natural for me. I got one set of 16" locking tongs (cheap but works well) at Kitchen Works in Chapel Hill for $10. I haven't found any at Amazon (mostly, they don't say -- that's how I got the ones I don't like).

 

Next in importance is a spatula. I have two and like both. One is a cheapie from a 30+ year old set. Thin and rather narrow blade for light work or tight pans. The other is a heavy "weber-style" with a thick wide blade. Following jimbo's (Tubby's master) advice, I ground the front and a side edge to a knife blade and find it very effect for everything from quesadilla to Boston Butts and for cutting when needed.

 

Also a jimbo delight is my grate lifter. Insert the end between the bars rotate and lift either to remove (wear gloves) or to insert wood chunks (use tongs). Whether the bars are hot (essential) or just greasy/dirty (nice to have), these get used multiple times every time I'm at the grill.

 

Valuable grill products include a SS vegetable bin/basket/whatever to grill loose/small-cut items. One or more cast iron pans or griddles. A second level grate to give you another grilling surface in place of the "bun-warmer" (grate assembled with parts from Lowes -- grate, bolts, fender washers and nuts).

 

Near useless or seldom used products: rib rack (you can roll them, lay them flat, layer them and there's nothing that says you can't cut a rack in half before grilling --in fact, my rib rack is so short I MUST cut the ribs or the flop on the grill), beer can chicken holder, fork (sorry, hood), or anything else that you can spend money on that really doesn't contribute to the end product.

 

Oh, yes, for the Genesis owners, the piece-de-resistance is the side cabinet/table extension kit. Pricey, but oh how nice it makes your grilling experience (and quite a looker, too). (That was another somewhat "coerced" gift. "If you don't buy it, I will.")

 

Otherwise, I'm not much on Weber products. Not saying most aren't good, but not all are worth bothering with and all are very pricy.

 

Edit: I forgot the long-handled grill brush. Mine has stainless steel bristles. Here again, you can go high end or less expensive -- both can get the job done. Mine was about $12 with a $5 replacable brush head. Many swear by the $30-40 whiz-bangs.

 

Rich

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thank you so much for the replies, that really helped me get an understanding of what I need to get. we have a gordon food service here in town(no sams close by), i'm going to stop by later and look at their tongs. if they don't have anything worth buying i can order the oxo. i'll also get one of the wide spatulas and put a nice edge on it.

 

i know if i buy a cheap themometer i'll just end up buying the themapen anyways, so i'll just bite the bullet and get one. thanks for the tip about signing up for their email to get discounts, i'll do that since my grill may not be here for a month or so.

 

 

a second level grate is a great idea, i wouldn't have thought of that, thanks for the tip. i'll pick up a stainless steel brush, i see weber sells a 12 inch and 21 inch, any pro/cons between the long or short one? i'll also pick up some baskets and a pan

 

the side cabinets look very nice, may have to put them on my "wish list".

 

a couple things i forgot to ask about- my wife and i enjoy rotisserie chicken, is the weber rotisserie a good accessory? I also will need a cover, any suggestions on which one, weber or aftermarket(amazon?). And lastly, will i be needing some brushes for oil? If so, which type, anything on amazon that works well?

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thank you so much for the replies, that really helped me get an understanding of what I need to get. we have a gordon food service here in town(no sams close by), i'm going to stop by later and look at their tongs. if they don't have anything worth buying i can order the oxo. i'll also get one of the wide spatulas and put a nice edge on it.

 

i know if i buy a cheap themometer i'll just end up buying the themapen anyways, so i'll just bite the bullet and get one. thanks for the tip about signing up for their email to get discounts, i'll do that since my grill may not be here for a month or so.

 

 

a second level grate is a great idea, i wouldn't have thought of that, thanks for the tip. i'll pick up a stainless steel brush, i see weber sells a 12 inch and 21 inch, any pro/cons between the long or short one? i'll also pick up some baskets and a pan

 

the side cabinets look very nice, may have to put them on my "wish list".

 

a couple things i forgot to ask about- my wife and i enjoy rotisserie chicken, is the weber rotisserie a good accessory? I also will need a cover, any suggestions on which one, weber or aftermarket(amazon?). And lastly, will i be needing some brushes for oil? If so, which type, anything on amazon that works well?

Hi Detroit, I second what Rich was telling you, all the tools including the brush you want to be long, so you don't burn yourself, what you will use most is your spatula, the thicker the better (and yeah I sharpened the beveled edge on mine) It makes getting under delicate stuff like fish and chicken nice because you don't rip it up, and like Rich mentioned you can cut with it right on the grates, that works good when you want to taste a morsel while you're at the grill.

 

Like the guys are saying thick and long on the tongs as well, thin ones will bend when you try to squeeze something tight.

 

Myself I use pot holders instead of gloves and only need them when i'm grabbing my rotto spit, stone or a casserole dish, I use a fireplace shovel for my hot coals/wood

 

A grate lifter is nice if your smoking, the ones Rich and I have are from Chargriller, cast iron and will lift even a 10mm grate no problem.

 

"brushes for oil" you can find long handled ones they look like a paint brush, you can get those at the grocery store in the baking isle or wherever they have their pans and what not.

 

Yeah webers rotto is nice and will fit your grill, the universal ones (less expensive) but might require a mod to the grill.

 

 

jimbo

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This cover seems to get really good reviews, anyone used one by chance?

 

Classic Accessories Veranda Cart-Style Barbecue Cover-

 

http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Accessories-73912-Cart-Style-Barbecue/dp/B000HCNEWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I cant comment on a good cover cause I wont cover my grill, my ducane cover, covers my lawn mower that sits out and my grill is under the patio cover

 

 

 

jimbee

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I cant comment on a good cover cause I wont cover my grill, my ducane cover, covers my lawn mower that sits out and my grill is under the patio cover

 

jimbee

 

Ditto on the cover -- lots of pros and cons here if you search for Genesis (or anything else) and cover. Jim and I have covered spaces though wind blown rain does get to mine, but many who live all over the country and don't have a covered space will not cover their grills. And many do.

 

The Weber Genesis roto is fine and beats finding and fitting another.

 

Basting ("oil") brushes are all over, but I now prefer the newer silicone brushes. This is the best deal I found and they are as good as any other. http://www.amazon.com/Better-Revolutionary-Grilling-Cooking-Brushes/dp/B00196I29K/ref=sr_1_24?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1372084913&sr=1-24&keywords=basting+brush

 

I'm with jimbo also that you can simply use pot holders, but I put mitts on my wishlist and like magic... One small issue with pot holders -- they mostly aren't intended for HOT (like a 500* pizza stone) so I had to double them over. That makes a small gripping area -- got burnt once.

 

Somewhere :P I posted a pic of my SS side cabinets on my brick red Genny. I think they look great.

 

Rich

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the main reason i was thinking about a cover is because we get quite a bit of snow here, and i use the grill a few times a week even in the winter. I'm afraid it will get buried in a couple feet of snow, which I thought may be hard on it, but maybe i'm underestimating the durability of the grill.

 

i added some of those brushes to my amazon cart, thanks for the link. i didn't have any luck at gordon food service for tongs, but i went to meijer and did find some weber tongs (#6672) that seemed pretty nice.

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Hey Detroit,

 

I've used veranda covers for a few years now and they work fine. Get the medium for the Genny. One tore just from being in the hot sun all day and the company replaced it without question, (well they did ask for a picture). I forgot how long they're warranteed for but these covers served me well.

 

Don't forget the porn when your grill comes in.

 

One other thing regarding accessories, if it wasn't mentioned on your other thread, is a floor mat. If your grilling on a wood deck, I recommend something below because grease will splatter and you will spill over the course of your grilling experiences. Like anything else you get what you pay for.

 

Enjoy the new toy,

 

elliot

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I have a Thermapen and love it, but if you had to cut some corners, you could get by just fine with a Taylor like this:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-806E4L-Weekend-Waterproof-Thermometer/dp/B001IV5VDG/ref=pd_sim_hg_5

 

I had that model before giving it to my Mom when I got the Thermapen. It is only slightly slower to respond, but I liked the backlight on it. It still works fine 2.5 years after purchase.

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