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I had the opportunity to catch a couple of shots of a DCS grill a client of mine just purchased. It looks to be a very solid and well made grill, the weight is awesome! Everything feels very sturdy, it's well constructed with a lot of attention to detail. One thing I found interesting was some ceramic "tubes" placed horizontal to the burners. I've got to check out the technology of these, I'm assuming it's a type of infrared setup.

 

The delivery people set it up, but were missing hardware necessary to install the left shelf, and also some brackets needed to hold the right side shelf up properly. So don't go by the photo for what appears to be a sloppy shelf setup. This is in no way the fault of the manufacturer, the driver just left the box back at the warehouse and will be returning shortly to correct this issue. Meanwhile, here's the pictures:

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't had time to check out the web info on this grill, but will get back later with something.

 

Mike

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Is it Fisher Paykel perhaps? They make great appliances with very easy to replace parts. I didn't realize they manufactured grills.

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Is it Fisher Paykel perhaps? They make great appliances with very easy to replace parts. I didn't realize they manufactured grills.

Correct! We don't do spelling here! :)

 

Mike

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DCS was founded in 1987. In 2004, they were bought by Fischer Paykel (big Australian/New Zealand firm). F&P has a big manufacturing facility in Huntington Beach, CA in addition to NZ and Australia. The leading guys at DCS didn't last long at F&P as they saw their product declining in quality in a move to outsourcing and mass marketing (according to them of course). Five of them left to form Capital Cooking Equipment.

 

The ceramic tubes in hte DCS grills are interesting and ceramic is a proven way to radiate heat, but I've heard the tubes are very prone to breakage as they are brittle - its a good idea, but maybe tubes aren't the best way to exectute the technology. DCS/FP seem to use quality materials, but the fit and finish isn't quite there for a product this expensive in my opinion, so maybe the former founders of DCS are right ......

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The ceramic tubes in hte DCS grills are interesting and ceramic is a proven way to radiate heat, but I've heard the tubes are very prone to breakage as they are brittle - its a good idea, but maybe tubes aren't the best way to exectute the technology.

gunksny,

 

I agree on the ceramic tubes - they looked VERY fragile to me, I got the impression that you could easily break them just handling for cleaning, etc. In the photo, you can see how quickly the white showed cooking stains, so I'm guessing they don't radiate as much "vaporizing" heat as do the ceramic infrared burners, which seem to stay pretty white despite how much you spill on them.

 

Thanks for the additional input on this company! :rolleyes:

 

Mike

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Is it Fisher Paykel perhaps? They make great appliances with very easy to replace parts. I didn't realize they manufactured grills.

 

I got a GE Monogram 36" grill and cart, which is supposed to have been manufactured by DCS. Any good sources for parts?

 

I won't say what I paid for it slightly used, it'll make ya sick!

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I got a GE Monogram 36" grill and cart, which is supposed to have been manufactured by DCS. Any good sources for parts?

 

I won't say what I paid for it slightly used, it'll make ya sick!

You didnt say what parts you need but try right here on The Source

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I got a GE Monogram 36" grill and cart, which is supposed to have been manufactured by DCS. Any good sources for parts?

 

I won't say what I paid for it slightly used, it'll make ya sick!

siliconsam,

 

Welcome to the Source! Glad to have you join up! ;)

 

Where did you hear that GE is now being made by DCS? Have they been purchased by GE? Do you have a manual with the grill, and if so, what company is providing the warranty/replacement parts for the DCS? I'm curious about this, I though GE had their own plants, and some were located in China. That could possibly bring down the quality of DCS in my book.

 

How about pics of your grill? And some meals on it? You know that's the price to join up here! :rolleyes: Not really, but we do enjoy our grill porn! :)

 

Mike

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siliconsam,

 

Welcome to the Source! Glad to have you join up! ;)

 

Where did you hear that GE is now being made by DCS? Have they been purchased by GE? Do you have a manual with the grill, and if so, what company is providing the warranty/replacement parts for the DCS? I'm curious about this, I though GE had their own plants, and some were located in China. That could possibly bring down the quality of DCS in my book.

 

How about pics of your grill? And some meals on it? You know that's the price to join up here! :rolleyes: Not really, but we do enjoy our grill porn! :)

 

Mike

 

I'll have to figure out how to do photos on here later tonight. I've heard and read from several sources that my 2-3 year old GE is made by DCS. They may have made several others too. I do know that many of the parts inside are identical to the DCS parts. I do know it is very thick SS, weighs a bunch, and is quality made.

 

I got the grill off Craigslist from a guy moving out of a house and into an apartment. When I got it, it had less than a tank of propane through it. I've put at least 8-10 through it since. I do love grillin'! Here it is after its last cleaning..

 

Where do I find the model and other manufacture info? I haven't seen anything on the grill itself.

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Where do I find the model and other manufacture info? I haven't seen anything on the grill itself.

Have you looked inside on the back of the door, or somewhere within the compartment? Or on the back of the grill itself, there should be a nameplate somewhere.

 

Mike

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Have you looked inside on the back of the door, or somewhere within the compartment? Or on the back of the grill itself, there should be a nameplate somewhere.

 

Mike

 

Finally found it inside the cabinet, way up under the bottom of the grill itself. It's a GE ZGG36L31CSS. S/N RL772xxx (I added the xxx but there are 3 more digits.

 

Found the manual and installation guides online. Still, with the burners and grates identical to DCS, and just the way it looks, I'd say DCS made it originally for GE. But I am 100% certain it's USA made. Bottom of the tag says GE, Louisville, KY, etc....

 

With the optional cart I think it was valued at $3K or more?

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Finally found it inside the cabinet, way up under the bottom of the grill itself. It's a GE ZGG36L31CSS. S/N RL772xxx (I added the xxx but there are 3 more digits.

 

Found the manual and installation guides online. Still, with the burners and grates identical to DCS, and just the way it looks, I'd say DCS made it originally for GE. But I am 100% certain it's USA made. Bottom of the tag says GE, Louisville, KY, etc....

 

With the optional cart I think it was valued at $3K or more?

Good! Glad you found the nameplate.

 

Luisville, KY is Corporate Headquarters for GE. They have several manufactures making appliances for them, Camco (a Canadian based manufacturer) being their largest. Camco also does much of their warranty work.

 

Looks like you have a great grill, certainly a good value!

 

Mike

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When small grill makers are bought by larger corporations, there are always complaints of loss of quality and other issues. I think quality grills are just expensive to build, so to make a profit and bring them into the price range that most middle-class can afford, the larger companies have to lower the price of production. Anyway, enough business talk. I've got a DCS grill, and yeah it was still expensive. So I don't think they have brought the quality down too far. The founders probably just have really high standards. It cooks well enough and more for my taste and I have not had any problems with it whatsoever.

 

Mine doesn't have those ceramic tubes though, maybe they're only on certain models?

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I got a GE Monogram 36" grill and cart, which is supposed to have been manufactured by DCS. Any good sources for parts?

 

I won't say what I paid for it slightly used, it'll make ya sick!

 

SiliSam,

 

Since I didn't see parts for GE or Monogram on The Source, here is a link to what I think is your grill for parts.

 

OK... spill it! How much did you pay? We all love to see that some are getting great deals out there!

 

Just curious,

Sink

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SiliSam,

 

Since I didn't see parts for GE or Monogram on The Source, here is a link to what I think is your grill for parts.

 

OK... spill it! How much did you pay? We all love to see that some are getting great deals out there!

 

Just curious,

Sink

 

 

Yeah, them GE parts are very high! The burners and grates have the exact same dimensions as the 36" DCS. I will need some new cast iron burners eventually. May order one of the aftermarket burners ($70 versus $140 GE), and if it fits, order 2 more.

 

Would love SS grates too, but the grates I have are holding up pretty well for now. The splatter shield between the burners and grate is another story. I've had to reweld them a couple of times, and I am going to build my own shield with some stainless I have.

 

The guy I bought it from advertised it on Craigslist for $500 and got no takers. I never saw that ad, but I found it later. At the day he needed to move from his house and into an apartment, he lowered the price to $200. I was the first to e-mail him, and when I went to pick it up he had already gotten 30 more e-mails. But I was first, and am grateful he waited for me to arrive and get it. New, this grill and cart was easily 3 grand.

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