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shelly
I wasn't sure where to put this post as we no longer have a dedicated sub forum for waggles.

In another thread, we were discussing using cornstarch plus the freezer to create a better crust on grilling a steak. I mentioned that I always used cornstarch as part of the crusting of my waggles but I, of course, was speaking about deep frying them.

I recently was able to get the last package of wild waggles at my local Costco (most are now farm raised), and as luck would have it, they came with the tail intact. As most of you know, the tail of the waggle is prized for it's tenderness and flavor. Although often confused with and used the same as ox tails in soups and stews, it is more chicken like in taste, and the waggle tail lends itself to high heat searing. By the time it crisps on the outside, the inside is tender and medium rare.

So I removed the tails from the two waggles and prepared them separately on my Weber S-470's sear station. After a few minutes cook time, I devoured both of them. No sharing of these delicacies. smile.gif

As you know, the waggle only has 6 ribs per side, unlike a pig which has 13 per side, so we never really try to bbq the ribs separately. It's always best to use the whole waggle, butterflied, if possible, in the grill.

I fired up my big green egg and got the temperature stabilized at 250°. After applying a rub, using lots of sage and fever-few (which are the natural foods of the waggle in the wild), I cooked the waggles, fur side down, for 2 1/2 hours.

I then turned them and opened the vents full, getting the bge up to 450° within 5 minutes, sauced the waggles with my Romanian sweet and sour sauce (similar to what I use for my stuffed cabbage dish) and crisped and caramelized the waggles before removing them, letting them rest, and then, slicing them. Of course, I'm not sharing secrets when I remind everyone that the waggle, unlike a beef brisket, is always sliced with, not against, the grain.

I served the sliced waggles with a woods ear mushroom sauce and wild rice pilaf, as was traditional back in ancient days when the waggle was frequently hunted and served for special banquets.

I regret that my camera died and I was unable to take any photos to post this time. But, I promise to post some pics the next time I low and slow some waggles (if they are still in season when I shop.)

Shelly
cuskit
QUOTE (shelly @ Jul 6 2009, 06:33 PM) *
I wasn't sure where to put this post as we no longer have a dedicated sub forum for waggles.

In another thread, we were discussing using cornstarch plus the freezer to create a better crust on grilling a steak. I mentioned that I always used cornstarch as part of the crusting of my waggles but I, of course, was speaking about deep frying them.

I recently was able to get the last package of wild waggles at my local Costco (most are now farm raised), and as luck would have it, they came with the tail intact. As most of you know, the tail of the waggle is prized for it's tenderness and flavor. Although often confused with and used the same as ox tails in soups and stews, it is more chicken like in taste, and the waggle tail lends itself to high heat searing. By the time it crisps on the outside, the inside is tender and medium rare.

So I removed the tails from the two waggles and prepared them separately on my Weber S-470's sear station. After a few minutes cook time, I devoured both of them. No sharing of these delicacies. smile.gif

As you know, the waggle only has 6 ribs per side, unlike a pig which has 13 per side, so we never really try to bbq the ribs separately. It's always best to use the whole waggle, butterflied, if possible, in the grill.

I fired up my big green egg and got the temperature stabilized at 250°. After applying a rub, using lots of sage and fever-few (which are the natural foods of the waggle in the wild), I cooked the waggles, fur side down, for 2 1/2 hours.

I then turned them and opened the vents full, getting the bge up to 450° within 5 minutes, sauced the waggles with my Romanian sweet and sour sauce (similar to what I use for my stuffed cabbage dish) and crisped and caramelized the waggles before removing them, letting them rest, and then, slicing them. Of course, I'm not sharing secrets when I remind everyone that the waggle, unlike a beef brisket, is always sliced with, not against, the grain.

I served the sliced waggles with a woods ear mushroom sauce and wild rice pilaf, as was traditional back in ancient days when the waggle was frequently hunted and served for special banquets.

I regret that my camera died and I was unable to take any photos to post this time. But, I promise to post some pics the next time I low and slow some waggles (if they are still in season when I shop.)

Shelly

Hah! Finally - we've got something here on the East Coast that you lack on "the other end"! smile.gif Waggle Farms! Jersey is loaded with them! Get on the Jersey Parkway, and head south to the Pine Barrens, and when you start to see very tall, barbed wire fences lining the sides of the road - you'll know you are in Waggle Country! But do not succumb to the urge to stop, get out of your car and try to photo one - they've been known to jump completely over these 24" high fences and attack careless city folk who have no idea of the heinous havoc those furry demons can wreck upon human skin! A local paper dedicated to Waggles (The Wiley Waggle Gazzette) just reported last week on the disappearance of several campers who strayed too close to the perimeter of one of the Waggle Farms. The owner has been cited several times in the past two years due to his neglect on keeping the perimeter secure, and reports of wayward waggles escaping have the nearby towns in an uproar! The National Guard was actually called in twice now to help evacuate the area until the wily waggles were captured. Reportedly, two are still on the loose, and the nearby town of Wigglesville is reportedly beginning evacuation procedures as we speak!

Did you know that it is illegal to capture, kill and/or hunt wild (as opposed to farmed)) waggles here at the Jersey Shore? Fear of contaminated waggleburgers has prompted a recall of all the farmed meat in markets now, and consumers are being urged to return any uneaten portions to the State Police - not directly back to the vendors selling the meat. Only State Police have the resources to contain this outbreak, "wagglebearinghummers" are being employed to transport the carcasses of dead animals to a burn dump site in Pennsylvania.

Also - it is the normal practice on this coast to cook fur side UP! This practice has been proven to help release moisture from the inherently damp meat (remember - waggles live most of their lives in the swamps). Thus you will find the meat much more palatable - not the greasy, dripping wet texture of a "fur down" smoked piece of waggle! Not meaning to start a flame war here - but this fact is well documented in Steve Reichlens new book, "Charcoal Seared Waggle - The Other Red Meat". In this book he dedicated an entire chapter just to the controversy surrounding the differing viewpoints of "fur up or fur down". I side with him as I've tried it both ways, and find the fur up practice to yield a much tastier, drier cut of meat without all the greasy and dripping mess you get with the fur down cooks.

By the way - a little tip. Try basting the waggle with the warmed juices from celerembers (the new hybrid veggie from a mix of celery and cucumbers)! It's absolutely divine! I find it brings out the tartness of freshly ground waggle, especially when served on a pretzabun (salted buns baked in the shape of a pretzel)! I don't normally share my secrets for successful Waggle Wonders in the Kitchen - but since you started this topic so openly - I feel it's only fair to trade tit for tat.

Ummmm - all this wagglesation (conversation about waggles) has got me craving waggles now! Dang - and none in the freezer! (Remember - waggle meat has to be kept in the freezer at all times to avoid spoilage due to it's lack of white celled blood).

Mikey
old_grouch
PICTURES PICTURES.......

I WANNA SEE SOME WAGGLE PORN NOW DAMMIT mad.gif


cuskit
QUOTE (old_grouch @ Jul 6 2009, 08:57 PM) *
PICTURES PICTURES.......

I WANNA SEE SOME WAGGLE PORN NOW DAMMIT mad.gif

Okay - you asked fer it!

Just a quick photo captured while this "baby" was sleeping. Notice the telltale sign of a farmed waggle by the evidence of a "fifth" paw growing just above the abdomen. Sorry for not having a grilled waggle shot - but we all know it's illegal to show photos of poached waggle meat!

Two Day Old Waggle:
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Mike
old_grouch
old_granny_grouch used ta be able ta bag a waggle a week before her eyesight went on the fritz...
now we're just happy when she dont hit the trucks or any of her stepgrand kids when she goes out now gunnin fer one biggrin.gif

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Sink
Is this the grillng world version of a snipe???
shelly
QUOTE (Sink @ Jul 6 2009, 07:52 PM) *
Is this the grillng world version of a snipe???


Not really. The snipe has almost mythical qualities and has only been seen at night whereas the waggle is now farm raised as well as hunted in the wild.

Also, the snipe is usually quite tough, more of an over cooked liver quality as opposeds to the delicious, sweet meat of the waggle.

But I can understand your confusion. You might want to find the thread on new way to prepare steak where the waggle was first brought up on the forum.

shelly

I credit our forum members who managed to snap a pic without harm to themselves or the waggles themselves.

Edited: to correct snaggle to waggle. I must have gotten waggle poisoning from eating too much of it. Got confused....
cuskit
QUOTE (shelly @ Jul 6 2009, 11:08 PM) *
Not really. The snipe has almost mythical qualities and has only been seen at night whereas the snaggle is now farm raised as well as hunted in the wild.

Also, the snipe is usually quite tough, more of an over cooked liver quality as opposeds to the delicious, sweet meat of the snaggle.

But I can understand your confusion. You might want to find the thread on new way to prepare steak where the snaggle was first brought up on the forum.

shelly

I credit our forum members who managed to snap a pic without harm to themselves or the snaggles themselves.

?!?!?!?! I thought we were talking about waggles here? Now you come along and make up this fictitious name called snaggles and pretend you have some first hand knowledge of a waggle? Humprhh!

My Daddy used to say you can always remember the truth - but lies will twist you up for sure! wink.gif

Mike
shelly
QUOTE (cuskit @ Jul 6 2009, 08:35 PM) *
?!?!?!?! I thought we were talking about waggles here? Now you come along and make up this fictitious name called snaggles and pretend you have some first hand knowledge of a waggle? Humprhh!

My Daddy used to say you can always remember the truth - but lies will twist you up for sure! wink.gif

Mike


You're right as is your dad. I am so embarrassed.

I edited my post to correct the snaggle mistake to waggle, due to the waggle poisoning, of course. Damn that waggle venom!!

Shelly

Abeach2bum
Arizona Waggles. I have heard that if you throw them in the smoker for a week, week and a half (foiled of course) they get so tender that with a little cutting oil and a carbide tooth bandsaw, the meat slices up pretty good! The youngins only need a few days in the smoker. No hunting license required nor is there a limit as to how many of these tasty creatures you can bag.
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pat3332
I knew Shelly would come through with some waggle info. I'm still looking forward to pictures of some waggle dishes however. Waggles seem to vary in looks somewhat by region. I suspect they are also able to evolve to fit in better with their surroundings.

This is turning into one of the more entertaining and unusual forum threads. I wonder if we should get this stickied so posts and pictures of the elusive waggle can be added more easily without having to search for it.

Pat
cuskit
QUOTE (pat3332 @ Jul 8 2009, 12:03 AM) *
I knew Shelly would come through with some waggle info. I'm still looking forward to pictures of some waggle dishes however. Waggles seem to vary in looks somewhat by region. I suspect they are also able to evolve to fit in better with their surroundings.

This is turning into one of the more entertaining and unusual forum threads. I wonder if we should get this stickied so posts and pictures of the elusive waggle can be added more easily without having to search for it.

Pat

Pat,

I do have some waggle meat pictures, but no cooked and plated shots. But you've got to understand that due to the lack of white cells in the meat - after cooking you have only seconds to consume it before spoilage occurs - which pretty much precludes wasting time with a camera...


Typical Wagglemeat producing plant (Southern New Jersey)
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Poachers using high tech methods to pre-dry the meat (remember - they are swamp dwellers, except for rare mutants as in Beaches Pics)
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Wagglacon (the "other bacon")
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Perfectly Aged Waggle Meat, including the highly sought but expensive "Prime Larvae Cut (many rednecks like this meat rare and will eat it as pictured)
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Ummmmmm - in the mood for some Waggle Sausage & Eggs for breakfast! wink.gif

Mike
shelly
We all appreciate Mike's waggle pics but please all, try to remember that the East Coast, especially the N.J. area, is flooding the market with their farm raised waggles.

If you possible can, try to find some wild waggle as we mostly have on the West coast. There is simply no comparison.

Shelly
cuskit
QUOTE (shelly @ Jul 8 2009, 09:52 AM) *
We all appreciate Mike's waggle pics but please all, try to remember that the East Coast, especially the N.J. area, is flooding the market with their farm raised waggles.

If you possible can, try to find some wild waggle as we mostly have on the West coast. There is simply no comparison.

Shelly

It's easy to understand why the Jersey Shore is flooded with farm raised waggles. I mean - just look at how cute they are:
East Coast Farm Raised Waggle (living in perfect harmony with East Coast Shore Birds):
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Now, on the other hand - West Coast Wild Waggles are, well, hmmmm - let the picture speak for itself:
West Coast Wild Waggle
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And Governor Arnold (CA), on the West Coast, has already passed legislation to begin cell stem research on waggles, and is pushing for mutant hybrid production. Fortunately we don't approve of this over here, and wildlife laws are protecting the few wild waggles still roaming free in the Pine Barrens - allowing them to expand the population to the huge herds that once dominated the swamps back in the 60's, before mankind realized what tasty morsels they were.
First Released Photos of West Coast Hybrid Waggle
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Ex President Jimmy Carter (East Coast) is doing all he can to help with the preservation of wild waggles, and has devoted 35% of his peanut production to feeding these wild hordes of waggles, as evidenced by the following photo. Hopefully - the West Coast will come around and begin to realize that preservation methods must be put into place, and farm raised waggles are the best line of defense against extinction of this most delicious of all the red meats.
Waggle on the Jimmy Carter Peanut Farm (East Coast - of Course!):
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Mikey
Ronald
QUOTE (cuskit @ Jul 8 2009, 10:59 AM) *
It's easy to understand why the Jersey Shore is flooded with farm raised waggles. I mean - just look at how cute they are:
East Coast Farm Raised Waggle (living in perfect harmony with East Coast Shore Birds):
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Now, on the other hand - West Coast Wild Waggles are, well, hmmmm - let the picture speak for itself:
West Coast Wild Waggle
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And Governor Arnold (CA), on the West Coast, has already passed legislation to begin cell stem research on waggles, and is pushing for mutant hybrid production. Fortunately we don't approve of this over here, and wildlife laws are protecting the few wild waggles still roaming free in the Pine Barrens - allowing them to expand the population to the huge herds that once dominated the swamps back in the 60's, before mankind realized what tasty morsels they were.
First Released Photos of West Coast Hybrid Waggle
Click to view attachment

Ex President Jimmy Carter (East Coast) is doing all he can to help with the preservation of wild waggles, and has devoted 35% of his peanut production to feeding these wild hordes of waggles, as evidenced by the following photo. Hopefully - the West Coast will come around and begin to realize that preservation methods must be put into place, and farm raised waggles are the best line of defense against extinction of this most delicious of all the red meats.
Waggle on the Jimmy Carter Peanut Farm (East Coast - of Course!):
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Mikey

You got me so confused unsure.gif
I thought Waggles only exsited on the golf course

I even went to the waggle website and couldnt find any of your critters
http://www.waggle.com/ biggrin.gif

Is this a northern thing? cool.gif cool.gif
Sink
Web search of IQF waggle roast came up with a great supplier! My visa is SCHMOKIN!!!!!!!!
cuskit
QUOTE (Ronald @ Jul 8 2009, 01:37 PM) *
You got me so confused unsure.gif
I thought Waggles only exsited on the golf course

I even went to the waggle website and couldnt find any of your critters
http://www.waggle.com/ biggrin.gif

Is this a northern thing? cool.gif cool.gif

Are you trying to throw a monkey wrench into our gears? laugh.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

Mikey
shelly
QUOTE (cuskit @ Jul 8 2009, 12:21 PM) *
Are you trying to throw a monkey wrench into our gears? laugh.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

Mikey


Many folks think that the monkey wench (is this the oldest profession in the world or what) is the distant cousin of the waggle but, if truth be told, it... oh, wait a minute, you said wrench. Sorry.

Shelly
shelly
What a rip off, the waggle store, of course.

I thought for sure that I could buy a pair of waggles and start breeding them but the waggle store is closed.

I suspect that they were forced to close but will not speculate any further. 'Nuf said.

http://wagglestore.com/

Shelly

Sink
I did find something at www.b*llsh*t.com...... But I don't believe ANYTHNG I read there... unlike here... biggrin.gif
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